An avalanche of random thoughts

Bye Smitty, you'll be missed

I know, I know. Please hold the blogging Pulitzer for that title until the end of the year. My titling originality knows no bounds. But it is appropriate -- I have a bunch of random thoughts that don't really make up full posts on their own, so here they are, all together.

There's been a lot of action on the Avs front but not a lot from Jibble or I. Why? Well, I can't speak for him, but I know I have a distinct feeling there's gonna be more movement. If they're dumping Smyth, there's more appealing targets for trade from a money perspective like Hannan. I'll wait for a more detailed analysis of what the team looks like until they sign a couple more guys and maybe trade another veteran.

After getting over the shock of the trade though, I'm actually not completely against this. We as fans have been screaming for a true rebuild, well, here it is. No more limping along in mediocrity. No more worrying about us somehow getting the youth involved before the aging members of the Avalanche were too old to contribute. Now, we play the youth that's NHL ready in the roles they need to be played, develop the other young guys in their respective leagues, and let things happen at their own pace. Make no mistake, the next few years are going to suck. We're about to find out who the real fans are. But frankly, in 3 years I think we'll look back and say this was the right move.

Don't get me wrong, I still hate the move. Why trade Smyth now, when teams are most concerned about the cap? Why not last deadline? Is this really the best offer we could have gotten? I like Quincey (if he's healthy), and draft picks aren't ever a bad thing, but Preissing is considered one of the worst contracts in the league. If we're taking him and his negative value back, we should have received a better return.

I'm specifically
wanting Colten Teubert (one of the better big defensive defenseman prospects in the league, a huge need for us) or Jonathan Bernier (a very, very good goaltending prospect that's actually expendable due to the emergence of 2 other good goaltending prospects for the Kings). But you can't get that kind of value when you're very clearly being pressured by ownership to cut salary at any cost, right now. Other teams know it, they sense your desperation, and you end up with this crap of a trade. Thanks Stan, you can go back to watching the Thuggets lose to the Lakers in the WCF for the next 3 years.

I'm still surprised Svatos hasn't been moved yet. There's a lot of teams wanting cheap 2nd line wingers, and we have a major logjam at right wing that trading him would clear up. We must actually be getting good offers for Svatos, that must be why we're not pulling the trigger. (/sarcasm)

Who's next to be traded? Hannan is an obvious target, but I can't see him getting great return, though anything is possible. But if I was a betting man, I could see Liles being shipped out pretty soon, and that makes me kind of sad. He's come a long ways defensively, he's a solid offensive performer, and he's signed to a pretty good deal, considering what offensive defensemen usually go for. But 4.2m per year is a lot, and we have a huge glut of offensive defensemen in the pipeline, not to mention the 2 PP specialist defenders we just picked up.

Liles to Boston makes a lot of sense from all angles -- we know they want an offensive defensemen from all of the Kaberle talk with Toronto, and they have the spare top 6ers we need badly. I'd love to somehow wrangle Kessel or Bergeron out of them for Liles+, but a more realistic return might be LW Marco Sturm, if he would waive his NTC.

Finally, I just want to remind everyone that Jibble and I are still attending development camp this week, on Friday the 10th. It's at Family Sports Center in south Denver at 9am. Please email me or let me know in the comments if you're planning on attending. Make sure you wear pants and a sweatshirt, that place is frigging cold. So far I know SlamDunk is planning on attending that day too...who am I missing?

I don't know when Jibble will be showing up, but myself and my family member that will be attending will probably be fashionably late, around 9:30am. I'm the skinny guy with brown hair, a goatee, and a grey Avs hoodie on. If there's enough demand, maybe I'll even post a picture!

Stay tuned later this week for my grades intro post...



  1. I think Hannan is gone next. Management will likely try to reverse the Giguere era by moving his biggest acquisitions: Smyth and Hannan.

  2. Magnum, what team do you think would be a good fit for Hannan? And what do you see going the other way? I agree he's probably being shopped, but I'm having a hard time visualizing the team that would want him.

  3. I could see Anaheim interested in Hannan as they're losing defensemen left and right. As of a return who knows what we could get, I would assume not very much. Maybe a restricted free agent like James Wisniewski if the Ducks decide they can't keep him or Ryan Carter and a third or fourth. They would be underpaying but thats what happens when they're agreeing to take the cap hit. Hannan is still a pretty good second or third defensemen but he's outmatched here trying to be a number one.

  4. Well there's a combination of Holiday weekend, and waiting to see what else they do with this. I'm just not sure what to think yet, and I think that's because the Avs aren't done.

    The Avs can't go into the season with this roster. I know they are in cost cutting mode, but I just don't think they are done yet.

    I also don't know what else to add after all the blogger's thoughts: my favorite take was Shane's

  5. @greendaygoal

    not a bad idea. not sure they have the elements we'd want in return though. Caarter and Wisniewski aren't really that appealing to me.

  6. I win, I win!

    It sounds like either Salei or Hannan could be gone by the end of the week which is unfortunate.

    Obviously it's hard to move Clark but just because Hannan makes a lot of money doesn't make him invaluable to a rebuilding squad. At least Footer is still there to teach the kids toughness.

  7. Well, they have two first rounders; so, somehow swing a deal for one of them. We could always hope for something like Tucker and Hannan for a first but I doubt the Ducks GM is that brainless. Wisniewski is a very good defensemen and could be a top pair very soon. So we could always hope for a Wisniewski and third type trade.

    I would love to see Salei gone, it seemed like every breakaway the other team had was because of him. Hannan is a good defensemen but he would do much better on a better team, like he did in San Jose when he shut down our top line in the playoffs eons ago.

  8. I definitely approve of the title of this post.